Husband and wife Chris & Rosie Ramsey chat to Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett in the latest episode of Dish Series 3.
Discussion includes Nick eating a hairy steak, Nick and Angela's partners sharing their grievances and the perils of working together.
Each week broadcast veteran Nick Grimshaw and much-loved Michelin star chef and restaurateur Angela Hartnett invite listeners to join their weekly dinner parties for more fun and unfiltered chat. Angela’s passion for good, honest food and use of the best ingredients shines through as she prepares and serves more easy and delicious Waitrose recipes while they both interview their special guests.
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CHRIS ON NICK EATING A HAIRY STEAK
Chris: “As we're on the- as we're on the subject of Nick Grimshaw greatest hits. Yeah. This is when I- honestly, when I realised steak was on the menu, I realised- you might not remember this. Can you remember- this is a very specific question. Can you remember the last time I saw you eat a steak? It's up there with one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen in my life. It's like a nightmare. Not- you weren't a messy eater. You were perfect.”
Nick: “Thank you.”
Chris: “But it was Sweat the Small Stuff. The panel show we used to have on BBC Three, which you had me on quite a lot. Thank you again. We're in the dressing room, you were sitting, getting your haircut with a steak on your knee eating. Honestly, haunted me for years, this. Sitting with a full steak and you know, meat and veggie and eating it with a knife and fork while someone cut his hair. And the hair was just falling. It was just falling down.”
Chris: “Only a bit of hair.”
Nick: “It was falling in the steak, and I was like, is this a bad dream? And I remember- and hats off to you for being such a, you know, you're very cool, a very laid back gentleman. And I went, ‘Mate, your hairs falling in your steak!’ ‘Oh, I’m not bothered.’”
PARTNERS/SPOUSES HAVING BEEF WITH EACH OTHER
Nick: “Let's talk about beef, ‘cause this is one of our favourite things that you do on the show, What’s Your Beef? and it's where couples, you know, air their laundry and let the beef off the chest. I have some from Neil.”
Angela: “Oh yeah. I think they're on my phone.”
Nick: “And you have some from Mesh”
Rosie: “These are your partners, yeah?”
Nick: “ Yes. Neil and Angela- -are amazing together. How long have you guys been together? How long have you been married?”
Angela: “We've been married five years, been together about twelve years. Known each other about twenty-something.”
Nick: “Okay, so these are from Neil. Neil is also a chef, by the way, you should know. By the way, get comfy. There's a list. ‘If I offer to help I get, ‘No, I'm fine.’ You try and do everything yourself.’”
Angela: “Yeah, that's true.”
Nick: “Yeah. ‘I don't know how you can have so much stuff in all of your different handbags and then you can never find anything.’ That’s one. ‘You are last minute.com, which I've learned to live with because I know you are always thinking about a thousand things at once.’”
Angela: “Aw. That’s a nice-”
Rosie: “That's kind of a compliment within a dig.”
Nick: “Yeah, it's like starts horrible, and then he’s like, but it's cause you’re a mad head.”
Chris: “Sandwiched it like your end of year review at work.”
Nick: “Yeah. What's like your most common one, do you think, that people send to you?”
Chris: “So, Neil just said there that you don't want help you, you say no- You kick off that he didn't help.”
Angela: “But I like to do stuff, and then he goes, I'll help. And I said, no, I'm fine. And then a week later I'll go- I'll say, for God’s sake Neil, you just never help, you do nothing.”
Nick: “That's the next, that's the next one. ‘When you nag it is annoying. But nine times outta ten, it is for my good.’”
Rosie: “These are really sweet.”
Nick: “‘Your steak is too perfect.’ Hang on, you wrote that.”
Chris: “‘I find it difficult living with such a beautiful woman. I always feel like I'm never good enough for you.’”
Angela: “This means Neil's about to come home really pissed tonight.”
Nick: “He says, ‘Apart from that, you are pretty top drawer as far as a wife goes.’ Good one, Neil. ‘As far as a wife goes.’ Because this was inspired, wasn't it, from like when you guys said, when Chris used to hug you used to burp? Is that where the beef came from? Or something that he does that drove you mad?”
Rosie: “That was one of the first ones, wasn't it? And you still do that, by the way. Like honest- like I'm winding a baby.”
Nick: “Have you got my beefs, Ange?”
Angela: “Yeah, okay. ‘You misplace everything, and somehow expect me to know where it is and find it.’”
Chris: “Right, right, I see the dynamic. There's a- he's Rosie, I’m- yeah.”
Rosie: “It's always the dynamic in a relationship.”
Angela: “‘You cannot put anything back where you found it.’ Who the hell keeps your house neat and tidy? I've been to your house, it's meticulous.”
Nick: “Meshach. And two cleaners.”
Angela: “I mean there literally is like a- matching everything. Although I did find the cupboard with all the crap, I did like-”
Nick: “Yeah, she did. Never been to my house before and she came in last year, her opening was last year, she went, ‘I knew you two were uptight.’ She's like, ‘Where's all your s***?’”
Angela: “Everyone’s got shit.”
Nick: “And then she came- about a few hours later, she said, ‘I found it.’ And she had rooted about.”
Chris: “Yeah, do you have a Monica cupboard?”
Nick: “She’s like, ‘Your basement's a mess.’”
CHRIS AND ROSIE ON SHAG MARRIED ANNOYED
Nick: “Let’s talk about Shagged, Married, Annoyed. A hundred million downloads.”
Chris: “Nearly 150. Yeah. I famously poo-pooed it. Yeah. I poo-pooed it, I said no.”
Angela: “How many times do you remind him of that?”
Rosie: “Oh, all the time. All the time. Every argument. ‘You’re living this life because of me.’”
Chris: “‘If it wasn't for me you'd still be in dressing rooms watching Nick Grimshaw eat his own hair.’”
Nick: “So what, what was the pitch?”
Rosie: “You were doing Facebook lives to promote your TV show.”
Chris: “Rosie was essentially off camera, heckling.”
Rosie: “Drunk.”
Chris: “Just drunk, drinking wine heckling for the first couple. And everyone on the comments were like, oh, your wife's hilarious and all this. And then you joined in for the sort of third, fourth, fifth one. And then I said, what do we do? We, we've got something together, what do we do? When I said Facebook live or YouTube or whatever, obviously Rosie doesn't like being filmed. So you said do a podcast?”
Rosie: “Yeah. We just said we'll do six episodes if nobody listens, it doesn't matter. Yeah. And then, and then people did listen.”
Chris: “I'll never forget one, I went on the Apple charts, the show and episode were both top and I was like, ah- and it was just the teaser, and I went, it's just cause it's short. So obviously people have listened to the full thing, so it almost counts as a full listen. And I was trying to work it out in my head. And then the following week it happened again, and then the- and then it just kept happening, and I was like, this is mad. And we only sit down and make each other laugh. That's all we do. And we finish recording and we go, was that good? I dunno. And I go, well you were funny. And she’ll go, well you were funny. And I go, well hopefully people like it. And then we'll put it out. And when- we're always surprised when our producer emails and goes, ‘Great ep this week guys. Great ep this week.’ I'm like, oh, thank God. We got away with it for another week”
Nick: “It’s so good though. So funny. It’s proper funny. It's one of them ones that you listen to on the train. And you have to sort of like, stop doing a noisy laugh. You're like, ha ha ha. Proper laugh out. So how many have you done now? Cause my card says two-twenty, but-”
Rosie: “Is it four years, or three years?”
Chris: “We did for a year for free. No sponsorship, nothing, did it for free. So I was in negative equity off the stuff I bought”
Nick: “And now? What we talking? I’m joking. And my next stat is the money that you've made.”
Chris: “A free steak. I’ll help you if you stop bloody gassing. So not- we'll just keep doing it until, until people get sick of it, I think we just, we love doing it.”
Rosie: “I can’t believe we do still enjoy it. Cause I've got a really short attention span, this is the longest job I've ever had. Ever. And it’s not even a job. This is the longest job I've ever had. And we still do enjoy it, which is good.”
Chris: “Sometimes when Rosie's in a really bad mood, she'll be like, I'm not in mood for it this week. And then a couple of minutes in, I'll say I laugh and I'm making a laugh and I, and you finish it and you go, I feel much better now. And then she goes, and then she goes, right, don't talk to us for the rest of the day ‘cause I’m in a good mood now.”
CHRIS ON HAVING A PACKET OF CRIPS AFTER DINNER
Nick: “So hang on, you genuinely do after your tea every night have a packet of crisps?”
Rosie: “His mam used to give him a bag of crisps and a bar of chocolate. Like, after every meal.”
Chris: “That's why I can't put weight on, cause I think my body was sort of- I think my body was used to it from an early age. It was- I'd finish a meal, I'd be like, bag of crisps, chocolate bar.”
Nick: “Hey, you could start doing that down Murano. Packet of crisps and a bar of chocolate after.”
Chris: “Fastest way to lose a Michelin Star. Here’s a Mr Kipling cake bar.”
THE CHRIS AND ROSIE RAMSEY SHOW
Nick: “So, after the runaway success of the podcast, we've had live shows. We've had a book. And now a TV show, The Chris and Rosie Ramsey show. Which is like Friday night primetime, proper, major, Graham Norton show, Graham’s s******* it.”
Rosie: “He really shouldn't be.”
Chris: “Yeah, he's got nothing to be worried about.”
Nick: “It's on BBC iPlayer, and it's coming to the end of the series now, I don't know when you're listening to his podcast, you might be listening this week, you might be listening a few weeks, I don't know. But the whole thing's on iPlayer- -if you wanna go and check it out. How is it doing your very own chat show?”
Rosie: “It's crazy. It's the first thing I've ever done in TV.”
Chris: “The first time she'd done autocue was standing, saying, ‘Welcome to the Chris and Rosie Ramsey Show.’ Absolutely smashed it, from day one. Our director said the other day to me, he said, Rosie had absolutely no business being that good so quickly. Quite good.”
Rosie: “That's nice. But not- oh gosh, no, I don't- It’s really cringe.”
Nick: “Hey, go on, give him a compliment, come on. Just one.”
Chris: “Nick Grimshaw’s having to beat a compliment out of you for me.”
Rosie: “It's painful. No, Chris is really good at guiding and keeping me right, and teaching, really, so, yeah.”
ROSIE ON FOOD CHALLENGES
Chris: “She was saying this the other day, she wants to do a food challenge.”
Rosie: “I'd love to do one to do one.”
Nick: “Yeah. What would you go for?”
Rosie: “Just like, probably like burgers and chips and like, you know, wash it all down with the milkshake.”
Nick: “Oh yeah. I reckon I could bosh a lot of buttons. Cadbury’s buttons. I reckon I could do like a million.”
Chris: “I firmly believe I could eat margarita pizza forever. Like I only stop because something in my brain goes, come on, mate. Like I stop mainly out of embarrassment or shame. Do you know what I mean? But I'm never full.”
ROSIE ON CHRIS TESTING COMEDY MATERIAL ON HER
Nick: “Rosie, I loved summat that I read where you said the joy of being with Chris is that he tests material, on you. How is that?”
Rosie: “Oh, you've got no idea. Awful. Awful. So what he does-”
Chris: “She said it twice.”
Rosie: “Awful. What he does is, he’ll just come up with something, we'll be chatting and I'll laugh and he- I see it in his face, I can just see his eyes kind of light up and he goes, she found that funny. Next day I'll hear him tell me mam, she'll laugh. Then we'll be at a party, you'll tell a group of people, they'll laugh, and then you'll just tell, probably about twenty people and then I'll watch it on stage in his next show. By the time you get to the tour - no disrespect - I don't laugh that much, I've heard it so much. It's just done.”
Nick: ”So do you go to the show and do fake laughs?”
Rosie: “Yeah, I've got to, yeah, yeah. Especially now that people know who I am. Before they didn't really know I was like, alright, now I've gotta be like, ha ha, you're so funny.”
Chris: “I always see the disappointment in her eyes when she hears us tell the anecdote to someone else.”
Nick: “And when you got together, did you ever think that you would. Work together.”
Rosie: “No, never. We've never really- did you ever think that we'd be doing this? It didn't cross mine.”
Chris: “I actually tried to keep you out of it, didn't I?”
Rosie: “I was at Capital, and I never mentioned that I was married to Chris and, we, we wanted to- you didn't want me in the limelight because it can be a bit nasty sometimes.”
Chris: “People become horrible. I'd- you get the odd comment, you get the odd thing, you know. We complement each other and we don't do this on our podcast, it kills me.”
Rosie: “You’ve brought something out of him, yeah.”
Chris: “You’re the love of my life, right, and I wanted to protect you.”
Rosie: “Are you drunk?”
Chris: “I knew how sort of rough this industry can be at times, and I sort of just wanted to not- I dunno, I wanted to protect you from it, but then, you know, we're both in it together now and it's actually really lovely having- -your partner, like, I'm not just with a co-host who I think, oh, they've probably got my back. I know she's got my back. Do you know what I mean?”
Rosie: “I don't think I could do it without you.”
Chris: “I thought you were gonna say, I don't think I've got your back.”
Rosie: “Yeah. I would throw you under the bus tomorrow.”
Nick: “Could you imagine going to work with Neil? Cause you used to work with him, but could you like go back and…?”
Angela: “Yeah, I think we could actually, yeah. I mean that's the interesting thing about your new show, you're both doing the same job. And that's where, you know, me and Neil we’re both chefs, but I think we do struggle in a kitchen. So, I would probably do front of house and he would do the kitchen, purely because-”
Chris: “It’s a very shouty professional, isn’t it?”
Angela: “And I'd be like, quite, you know- because even when I cook sometimes, you know, I remember we had this great chef, Steven Harris, who runs a restaurant in Kent and he came to eat at the French House, and I happened to pop in to see Neil and help him. And I said, shall I plate that for you? And I plated this lovely piece of cod with this green sauce and he’s literally there with his, you know, like that, and he went, I said, ‘Is everything all right, Neil?’ I said, ‘Have I put too much green sauce?’ ‘Well, yeah.’ And I said, ‘Would you like me to re-plate it?’ He goes, ‘Well, yeah, if you could,’ and then walked off. I was like, oh my lord.”
Rosie: “Did you not say, excuse me? Who’s got the Michelin star?”
Angela: “Well, no, it was his kitchen and I did replate it and I was very good. But then after I did a thing and then God, has he heard that enough times.”
Chris: “I worked in kitchens back in the day, I had all kinds of jobs back in the day. I worked at the Stadium of Light, I used to do the silver service with the- Yeah, I can do that, I can do the spoon and the fork like that. Yeah, I can do all that, yeah. I mean, did I pour peppercorn sauce on the back of some jackets now and then? Yes, I did.”
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